EP212 Dark Outpost, The Jessie Stand with Dave, Jeff and Cisco
A sad gathering of friends regarding the recent passing of Jessie’s son Josiah Czebotar in a car crash. Both Dave Zublick and Jeff Shepard (Ramsperger) have been interviewing Jessie from early on (see my Team 6 article for more on these guys). Similar to other hosts of video channels, they are reverent, expressing great love for Jessie, never doing any deep questioning of Jessie’s stories and attacking her critics with much disdain, never mustering up the wherewithal to name them under the guise of sending traffic their way.
An example of this in the video is when Jeff referred to Larry Gaiters as “a certain Youtube personality” that was “slinging a lot of dirt at Jessie” and naming states around the country her kids live in. What states would that be? So far I have found no evidence of this in the Bishop’s online comments or in his videos or other video channels. This prompted Jeff to imply that Josiah may have been murdered. Then backed it off due to a lack of evidence. It was a timid attempt to frame Gaiters for this tragedy without naming him, yet it is quite apparent who Jeff is referring to. Larry Gaiters has denied these allegations on Twitter.
The charge that Larry Gaiters was doxing her kids is flimsy at best. Why do her Apologists not wonder why her children are not living with her? Why would they spread out in different states? But as has been recently discovered from a source in Oregon, many of Jessie’s children were living with families from a church there, and not spread here and yon. I am not going into specifics in the event I am tagged as a doxer. If more details are needed my email address is here. So, if Larry Gaiters did mention that Jessie’s children were living around the country, he was in error. A charge he has so far denied.
It has been pointed out and proven many times here in this blog that Jessie Czebotar is less than honest in dealings with the public. She has bore many a false witness regarding the details of her life, other people and things, and much of her life story as told by her is vague and undocumented. Her never ending fundraising is poorly documented with receipts never shown. Some of her Bible teaching is unsound, such as her anointing the earth project. One former member of her SOS Army said she had them out anointing oil on trees—the very thing the Druids do. It’s a false doctrine because it is tackling a spiritual problem by using physical actions as if prayer and fasting is not enough.
But none of this matters to the Dave’s and Jeff’s that inhabit Jessie’s World. They talk about her as if she is a holy saint going forth teaching profound new knowledge and doing good deeds for the downtrodden. It’s sickening seeing these people fawning over her. It is quite apparent there is something wrong here. You don’t build a sound Christian ministry, or any endeavor in life on deceit.
One thing is for certain, she is the goose that laid the golden egg. Everybody that has her on their channels gets a big traffic boost. But is the increase in income enough for people to cast aside their integrity and promote something that is untrue?
For Dave Zublick It Is All True Even When It Isn’t
Zublick with his rugged looks and gravelly voice is a hard take. He comes off passive/aggressive. His channel has the weirdest titles for his videos. Such as Amy Coney Barrett INDICTED; Demonic Entities Escaping FROM CERN!; Schiff's Execution: Cried LIKE A BABY; Report: Robert David Steele EXECUTED and so on. He apparently doesn’t mind being labeled an internet crackpot with such a wacky spread of conspiracy subjects. I kind of admire him for that. He’s not afraid of being labeled a flake and presses on regardless.
He also doesn’t mind playing a Christian on the internet that has a passion for S&M and spanking. He follows a bunch of them on Twitter and on Facebook he follows Jackee Butts whose motto is: A WOMANS ASS IS CHEEKY AND SOFT, SO A MAN DOESN'T HURT HIS HAND. The page features pictures of women getting spanked, some bare bottom and some not with Dave posting a few lurid comments. See the link HERE or below.
This is one pattern I’ve seen with people that strongly support Jessie on video channels. Most are slightly bent. Dave is into his own personal kink in a public way. Why? I guess you have to be this way in order to suborn a fraud this big with no end in sight.
Since Dave Zublick doesn’t care a wit about the truth or reality, his admiration for Jessie knows no bounds. It’s hard to tell who is the biggest fawner—Dave or Jeff. Jeff once referred to Jessie gleefully as “higher than the angels.” Even though the Bible says we are lower than the angels while in the flesh. Jessie beamed at the sweet words although she failed to correct him.
However, Dave does go out on the limb when he says that he knew Jessie was telling the truth just by simply hearing her voice. Fact-checking need not apply here! Dave’s ears set the standards for truth and facts.
Another strange thought of his, is that he notes that Jessie’s story remains the same. “Not one detail has ever changed,” he remarked proudly. A common refrain of his.
Well, it looks like his ears failed him. Because Jessie has changed her story, and remarkably, on his show about a month apart. It involves the death, or faked death of her training partner who seems to have survived anyway in later stories. It starts out with a death in a house fire and the second account in a car fire. It’s hard to believe that Zublick didn’t notice this discrepancy.
What follows is the transcripts from the 2020 videos which are no longer available and now reside behind a paywall.
From May 29, 2020 Dave Zublick interview:
“Proctor is you know hauling me down the stairs and when she got the door open she literally basically threw me out thedoor onto you know it was like there was a porch with a few probably two or three steps and she throws me down those steps into the grass and as I get there I hear the sound of fire and I looked to my right and there’s my training partners house on fire and there’s fire trucks there there’s people in the neighborhood already gathered and I just went running for that house and I didn’t stop like I literally I got to the crowd and I started looking for him and his brother and I was asking you know some of the neighborhood kids and some of the other people like have you seen you know this person and they’re like no and all of a sudden I hear this pounding from the upstairs window and I I turned to look and there’s my training partner and he’s mouthing that he can’t get out and it was like this switch in me just flipped.”
Then a short while later, from a June 5, 2020 Dave Zublick interview, Jessie changes the story of her training partner to death from a car gas tank fire:
“I reached out my hand as far as I could and touched my pinkie to his and I just remember you know my training partner he took this deep breath and then you know he started breathing just normal again and you know I had picked up that he literally was holding his breath not breathing because it was so graphic you know and so there’s just no words and then the next day you know after we left there we got in the cars and went home they gave him over to custody of him to his grandfather on so then he thoughts when he moved into the house that was about a block away from where I was and let me think what else with that the next day the news went out that there had been a severe accident that the gas tank had been hit of course and so all the bodies were burned and so we attended the funeral service of his mom and his dad and sister and for that…”
There are many more instances of this. For example, in the video of Jessie at the Orlando retreat, she tells the story of the house fire, not the car fire. Dave Zublick has no problem with this contradiction. I find this a mystery. The mystery of the motivation that makes people ignore things like this. Zublick has to know this.
In reference to the training partner who dies in a fire only to be found again alive and well, Jessie never publicly mentions his name. But since the fallout of the SOS Army, people are coming forward. We know the name now.
It’s Lucien Greaves. The co-founder of the Satanic Temple. The person Jessie claims to have never met in person.
A Word On Cisco Wheeler
Cisco Wheeler, a true Illuminati whistle blower back in the 1990’s, was destitute and living in obscurity. Jessie and VReyes found her, set up Go Fund Me and Patreon accounts and started promoting her and her book Behold The White Horse on video channels. This greatly raised her awareness. Jessie’s organization likes to help people that will help them. Besides, they needed a photographer in the now debunked three girls photo. The photograph that was taken in 1899 and published in 1901.
This leads into the photo once again. It’s a troubling issue for them and it never goes away. I’ve written extensively about it and it’s more than just a picture because within it are multiple falsehoods. It’s something Jessie won’t come clean about and when people fall away from her it involves a lot of issues and the picture is part of it.
So the next tactic is to say Jessie was simply mistaken— she wasn’t lying, she actually believes it due to some type of trauma she experienced but not coming from MK-Ultra mind control. After all, she has denied being trauma based mind control which would make her special indeed, since all SRA survivors are. Cisco admits to false memories possibly being implanted in her due to her trauma mind control. She says she was a sex kitten for famous men of power. But was this real, or false memories?
However, Dave and Jeff after much back and forth had a hard time making a connection for Jessie and the 1899 picture being a false memory. Jeff implies that seeing 1,000 children killed in a month (33 kids a day) which Jessie claims to have witnessed, would be enough trauma “to lay a foundation” as he put it, for false memories, in this case the picture of the three girls. Which is utter foolishness showing desperation regarding the picture and Jessie’s unwillingness to come clean in relation to it which entraps them in this endless cycle. This junket into amateur psychology is just an excuse. She lied.
When it comes down to it, Dave and Jeff are the poor man’s version of propaganda. They aim their slavish commentary towards the hardcore Jessie followers, the true believers. They look at no fault and bend over backwards to defend and attempt to explain the controversies. Try as they must, Dave and Jeff’s on running defense of Jessie is lacking in sound ideas to be convincing. It might be for the true believers, but some people feel that something is off. And it is. With defenders such as Jeff, Dave, Carmen, George, Chantelle, etc, there to give Jessie a comfortable platform to abide free from her critics where she can tell her heroic tales to her admiring flock.
As Morpheous said to Neo, “Unfortunately, no one can be told what the Matrix is. You have to see it for yourself.”
When will people see it for themselves?
Jeff Shepherd was wrong stating that Josiah was Jessie’s oldest son. He was not. Jacob Czebotar Jr. is.
David Zublick used to have a one eye symbol for his video channel but removed it once he jumped on the Jessie bandwagon.
Cisco Wheeler is an alias. Her other names are Linda Johnson or Linda Anderson. It is unknown which one, if any, is true.
Cisco’s GoFundMe is no longer available. Her Patreon account, linked below, is still active.
Veronica Swift blogs at Lifting the Wool. Despite bland prose, she is a thoughtful and intelligent writer even though her work in support of Jessie is uncritical and unquestioning. Sort of the opposite of what I am doing, which is questioning the narrative and finding it wanting. I offended her so she harshly criticized me on Twitter (bad researcher, bad writer, nothing but opinions) and openly speculated on ways to shut down my blog for slander. The hell with free speech. Once again, these Jessie drones never understand the definition of slander.
Her article, Do Photographs Lie? is her foray into the 1899 picture controversy. She digs deep but ultimately leaves the issue unreserved. She obviously can’t handle the truth—that Jessie lied to her. Women like this have a love for Jessie Czebotar that borders on fanaticism. They are unfazed by the fantastic stories they are being told or how nonsensical they can be. It blinds their judgment.
I am not one to go about claiming effective Jessie supporters are paid trolls, such as they do us critics, but Veronica Swift comes the closest I have seen so far. Still can’t tell for sure, so I dub her a true propagandist. She recants Jessie’s tales with no worry that she is publishing things that are untrue and capable of leading people astray. One can read her tame recaps of Jessie’s life stories below.
EP212 Dark Outpost, The Jessie Stand with Dave, Jeff and Cisco
Dave Zublick Facebook page
Jackee Butts Facebook page
Cisco Wheeler Patreon
Book: Behold The White Horse available Amazon
Cisco’s use of aliases
The Picture Does Not Lie
She's Caught Again